Why did "Lucifer" decide to start the war in heaven with only 1/3 of the angels?
I was reading the passages in The old testaments and in Revelations, it mentions Lucifer(or Samael) gathered 1/3 of the angels in heaven and decided to start the war in Heaven to overthrow GOD. And we know he failed and was expelled from Heaven. However my question is: why did he decide to rebel when he had gathered only a third of the angels in heaven? Why not wait until he had at least half of them? or at least more than half? Like dude, how are you so sure you would win with only a third of the angels? Unless many or all of the angels that formed that 1/3 were combat types and powerful angels, like Archangels, Thrones, Dominions, Powers, some Seraphs, etc.
Its just one of the couple of thoughts I had when reading the verse that has been roaming in my mind lately...
- BelievethLv 5hace 6 mesesRespuesta preferida
The reason was because of Satan's pride. His pride got the best of him and he believed he was greater than God. Satan still believes he can win against God,
but he will end up in the Lake of Fire defeated.
- hace 6 meses
Lucipher is still in the afterlife, and he's still an angel. That's all I can tell you. I dunno who came up with all the crazy about him, but it's not true.
- UserLv 7hace 6 meses
You haven't been reading what you claim you have been reading.
who wrote around 100 C.E.
describes a FUTURE war "in heaven"
("future", of course, from the author's perspective).
It does not mention Lucifer.
It does not mention Samael.
It does not teach that anyone "gathered 1/3 of the angels in heaven and decided to start the war" (to the contrary).
The question is moot.
- hace 6 meses
The war is not over until the end of this temporary 2nd age events happen and after the millennium, thousand years of teaching God's Word while satan is bound and unable to interfere, after satan is released again for a short time, after Judgment Day. One of those events is that he will deceive the whole world . . . not God's elect, but satan would deceive even them, if God did not shorten the time. Do not underestimate satan's supernatural abilities. No one, except for Jesus, overcomes the testing of satan. It is only by God's grace through Jesus Christ and reliance on the mercy of God through Jesus Christ that Christians will overcome the testing of satan and not face the 2nd death, which is death of the soul after death of the flesh body. Revelation 20 KJV talks about the souls that overcome through their faith in Jesus being immortal while there are some that will be tested again by satan when he is released after the thousand years.
Revelation 12:9 KJV And the great dragon was cast out, that old serpent, called the Devil, and Satan, which deceiveth the whole world: he was cast out into the earth, and his angels were cast out with him.
Matthew 24:22 KJV And except those days should be shortened, there should no flesh be saved: but for the elect's sake those days shall be shortened.
1 Corinthians 5:5 KJV To deliver such an one unto Satan for the destruction of the flesh, that the spirit may be saved in the day of the Lord Jesus.
2 Peter 3:9 KJV The Lord is not slack concerning his promise, as some men count slackness; but is longsuffering to us-ward, not willing that any should perish, but that all should come to repentance.
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- keyjonaLv 7hace 6 meses
That' a fairy tale.
- hace 6 meses
HE THOUGHT HE COULD WIN.
- Ben ShimonLv 6hace 6 meses
He doesn't have 1/3 of the angels. That teaching is the result of pathetically poor exegesis.
Rev 12:1-4 And a great SIGN [Gen 1:14-18] appeared in heaven: a woman clothed with the sun, with the moon under her feet, and on her head a crown of twelve stars [occurred 9/23/2017]. She was pregnant and was crying out in birth pains and the agony of giving birth [Rom 8:19]. And another [indicating of a similar nature] SIGN [Satan is never used as a SIGN in the scriptures for anything] appeared in heaven: behold, a great red dragon ["Nibiru" or "Hercolubus" as it is called], with seven heads and ten horns [small planets and moons that accompany it], and on his heads seven diadems [rings like Saturn]. His tail swept down a third of the stars of heaven and cast them to the earth [a massive meteor shower will take place when "Nibiru" arrives as there is much debris accompanying it]. (Narrative changes here!!!) And the [NOT great and NOT red] dragon [Satan] stood before the woman who was about to give birth, so that when she bore her child he might devour it [Zec 14:1-4].
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The massive asteroid shower, thousands of them, and the appearance of "Nibiru" are both SIGNS of the return of Yeshua. IF anyone says Yeshua has returned and you have not seen both of these SIGNS do not believe them, it is a deception.
Isa 24:20 The earth staggers like a drunken man; it sways like a hut; its transgression lies heavy upon it, and it falls, and will not rise again.
Luke 21:26-27 Men's hearts failing them for fear, and for looking after those things which are coming on the earth: for the powers of heaven shall be shaken. And THEN shall they see the Son of man coming in a cloud with power and great glory.
- Adullah MLv 7hace 6 meses
Satan or Lucifer, as being created from fire , was driven out of the Garden of Eden, because he deny to prostrate to Adam , who was being created from earth , as according to the commandment of GOD, while all the angels of GOD , being created from the Radiant do obediently prostrate to Adam. So the reason of satan being driven out of the garden was because he become arrogance to GOD and being jealous of Adam, that cause him to fall down and become enmity of mankind on this very earth , till the last hour comes. So satan has nothing to do with the angels in his rebel in the Garden of Eden.
- hace 6 meses
1/3 is all the angels that would join in Satan's rebellion, the other 2/3 stayed faithful to God. Archangel means chief or principal angel and there is only one, Michael. Satan did not start the war, When Jesus Christ was given kingship over God's Kingdom, Jesus Christ and his angels battled Satan and his angels and cast them out of heave, down to the vicinity of the earth where they now reside in the air about us.
- Anónimohace 6 meses
Cause Satan decided to go against God's will like now, that's why Jesus will return and angry, angry at how Satan destroys God's people with lies